What the hell is a "kind?" What about when different members of a "kind" are so different that they can no longer interbreed? Yes, that's right... Speciation.
Humans are Great Apes... Next question.
god did not make life in a simple form and allow it to evolve into more complex forms.
instead, he created basic kinds of complex plants and animals, which then reproduced according to their kinds.
( genesis 1:11, 21, 24 ) this process, which continues today, has resulted in the earth being filled with the same kinds of life that god originally created.. the bible does not specify how much variation can occur within a kind, as might result when animals within a kind interbreed and adapt to their environment.
What the hell is a "kind?" What about when different members of a "kind" are so different that they can no longer interbreed? Yes, that's right... Speciation.
Humans are Great Apes... Next question.
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
Does the number of increase in the JWs indicate jehovahs blessing and direction? Does it prove that the WT is god's chosen organization?
If so, then the JWs are very... VERY far down the list among Christian religions. Besides, ex-JWs are not cult members... JWs are. Cults attract and retain members through mind control. People come to this site confused, angry and sad. We help each other through our hard times caused by the cult, the. Most move on with their lives. The only time an ex-JW talks to another person about JWs is when they're warning them to stay away! This religion is poison. All religion is poison. The sooner the world reizes that, the sooner we can move on as a race.
But.. Please, continue
i was watching this lecture of him (very nice actually) and he was referring a lot of the bible.
now he used a bible version with jehovah's name in it and used it quite a lot.
i was therefore wandering: was he a witness at some point (around 6.20)?.
Funny, I just read his book, "Why I Am Not a Christian" today
a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
But once someone learns to sort through fact and fiction ie. material from spiritual, how can they NOT lose faith in a deity? The spiritual cannot be tested, therefore cannot be true. Once someone realizes that, a deity is not important.
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
You said there is no hope outside the truth ... But on other threads you state ad nauseum that there is no truth , no facts , etc... You are right, you don't fit in here.
Of course you are joking about "returning to jehovah" lol good luck, see you at the big A
i am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
You didn't stump them, you just set off their apostate alarms. They weren't going to waste their time on you
i just wanted to chime in as a loving atheist father, divorced to a jw, and what plays as far as educating our children.. we have shared custody but the kids are mainly with their mom - 11 and 14 respectively.. the problem i face is keeping a balance for my children.
i have turned atheist during our marriage, so my ex didn't have the spiritual support she signed up for anymore.
i can understand it is not easy.
With the advent of the Information Age, the odds of your children turning out to be Atheists is high regardless of what you do. You can teach your children to think, without a frontal attack on their faith. Then let the internet take care of the rest. Just make sure they don't get baptized too young... Or at all.
The odds are in your favour. Just remember: them becoming believing adults IS a bad situation.
trivial but interesting:.
1) page 23 : simplified memorial date : 4 numbers only: 14 / 4/ 20 14 -or- 4 / 14 / 20 14 -or- 20 14 / 4 / 14. it is only numerology, and if you switched between julian& gregorian calenders, the order would disappear , yet if we could have an eclipse too, like we had in the 60s in eastern north america, icing on the cake.. 2) the front cover, two huge stones piled in the back yard of the house, precariously perched.
perhaps an attempt to please god through service 6000 bc.
No point trying to find cryptic messages from the WT outside of the revelation book... Dubs are too stupid, and there's no elite secret group who knows how to read them. Go ahead, bring this up to a JW friend and watch their reaction.
hi everyone,.
im trying to find articles from the wt and awake that show when the writers are discouraging charity work or giving.
from any books would be good also..
Regardless of what the WT says in writing, the general attitude of JWs towards worldly charities is VERY negative... Not sure why. I mean most JWs feel the same.
Part of helping my wife to wake up was to help her see what charities can do for people. This year she gave $500 to local charities, I'm very proud.
okay, here's the issue.
some people, even some jws, believe that in the new world they will be reunited with their spouses.
jesus, however, said that in the resurrection there would be no marriage or giving in marriage.
Well either way, they won't be gods of their own planets...